Friday, January 04, 2008

The Church and the Canon

Chris Tilling has a contest going on over at his blog. Under the title "Contest: Complete this sentence" he writes,

Christian canons of scripture ..."
therefore ... ?
but ... ?
(I'm thinking of the old church tradition / scripture debates)


The comment box is full of suggestions, offered mostly by non-Catholics. Let me give you theirs before I give you mine.


j. c. poirier writes:
"The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture, but the kerygma (as the foundation of the Church) is prior to the Church, and it is the kerygma that lends Scripture its authority."

Eddie said...
"The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture therefore those who say they believe who say they base their faith on the Bible and not on church tradition are somewhat misinformed, but getting them to see that point is probably more effort than it is worth."

Kenny said...

The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture, therefore canonicity appears to depend on the authority of the Church and not the other way around. But, this does not undermine the contemporary authority or meaning of the scriptures because the Church did canonize them and even before that considered them authoritative.

Alex said...
Therefore, the church decided what would be in the canon of scripture, but canonicity doesn't affect the truthfulness or otherwise of the historical event.

WTM said...
The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture......but what does artillery have to do with anything?

Pastor Bob Cornwall said...
"The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture, but the Church is the Body of Christ and therefore it is Jesus to whom Scripture and Church both witness who stands preeminent as judge and interpreter of Scripture.

Nick Norelli said...
The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture......So
Tilling would have us believe, but let us suppose that Tilling is correct, all
we could conclude
...therefore... ...is that the Church is older than the
Christian canons of Scripture
...but... ...all the people involved in the process
of canonization are worm food yet the canon lives on, and since necromancy is
illegal according to the Jewish canon of Scripture we don't do it because we
recognize some sort of continuity between the Jewish canon and the Christian
canon (because most of the early Christians were Jews anyway), so in the end we
give preeminence to the canon over dead guys, no matter how cool they were...:
^P

Josh said...
"The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture...butthat sounds vaguely Romanist, so my common sense is overridden by my strong anti-Catholic prejudices and THEY PRAY TO MARY AND PRIESTS HAVE SEX WITH KIDS OMG!!1!11!"

::aaron g:: said...
therefore we should all be Catholic.(What do I get if I win?)

Owen Weddle said...
The Church is chronologically prior to the Christian canons of scripture therefore the canon speaks more directly about the beliefs of the church, but this does not necessarily invalidate the canon as a viable witness to truth if the Church was a faithful steward of the truth.

Here's mine...



Michael Barber said...

The Church is chronologically prior to Christian canons of scripture and therefore Protestants have to come up with a "but" and long, convoluted statements with which to follow it.*

*See above comments.

2 comments:

Chris Tilling said...

The winners will be declared soon.

I was just looking down your blogroll, reading

Mark Giszczak
Bock's Blog
Christian Brady
Ben Witherington
James Crossley
Jim West
Stephen C. Carlson
N. T. Wright
Mark D. Roberts
Claude Mariottini
etc.

and I read

"Christ, My Righteousness"

"Crikey", I thought, "even our Lord has begun to blog!" Then I realised my mistake...

kentuckyliz said...

If the Septuagint was good enough for the Apostles, it's good enough for me!

Jews setting their canon four centuries later has no binding power on Christians! If it does, what else should the Jews rule us on? Where do you draw the line?