Thursday, April 01, 2010

Was Jesus Really Crucified with the Passover Lambs?

It's rather commonplace to hear these days, both in the pulpit and on the page, that Jesus was sentenced to death at the "very hour" the Passover lambs were being offered in the Temple. Above all, Raymond Brown made this idea popular in his commentary on the Gospel of John, when he argued that John's reference to Jesus' standing before Pilate on the Pavement (Gabbatha) at "about the sixth hour" (John 19:14) was a Johannine clue meant to signal to the reader that Jesus, the true Passover lamb, was being led to the cross to take away the sins of the world. (See Brown, The Gospel according to John, 2:556).
There's only one problem with Brown's theory; he's got no evidence to back it up. In fact, the little evidence we do have contradicts his assertion. For example, Josephus, who was a priest in the Temple in the first century A.D., makes very clear that the Passover lambs were sacrificed between 3 and 5 o'clock.:
Accordingly, on the occasion of the feast called Passover, at which they sacrifice from the ninth hour [=3p.m.] to the eleventh hour [=5 p.m.], and a little fraternity, as it were, gathers around each sacrifice, of not fewer than ten persons. (Josephus, War 6:423-24)
If this is correct--and the later Mishnah backs up Josephus, saying that at the earliest, the Passover lambs would not be sacrificed until 1:30p.m. (cf. Pesahim 5:1)--then John 19:14 cannot be a signal to the reader that Pilate is sentencing Jesus to death just as the Passover lambs are beginning to be killed in the Temple. Strangely, however, this false interpretation is so widespread that I regularly encounter people now who say that John "says" Jesus was crucified at the same time as the Passover lambs. But he says no such thing.
The Perpetual Sacrifice in the Temple: 9a.m. and 3 p.m.
So, is there any cultic significance to the hour of Jesus' passion and death? Did Jesus' death on Calvary correspond to any sacrifices in the Temple?
I would suggest there is, and that it is the Synoptic evangelists who have brought this out. For while the Synoptic Gospels make it explicit that the Passover lambs were slaughtered twenty-four hours before Jesus' death (cf. Mark 14:12; Luke 22:7), there was one other sacrifice that was going on in the Temple when Jesus was crucified on Good Friday: the perpetual sacrifice, known as the Tamid.
Strangely, this sacrifice, which is forgotten by almost everyone, was arguably the most memorable of all the Jewish sacrifices, since it happened every day, twice a day. According to the Torah itself, twice a day, in the morning and the evening, an unblemished male lamb was to be sacrificed in the sanctuary, and offered along with an unbloody sacrifice of flour and wine (see Num 28:1-8; Exod 29:38-42).
Now, although the Old Testament does not say exactly when the morning and evening sacrifice took place, according to ancient Jewish sources outside the Bible, the morning offering of the Tamid took place at 9 a.m., while the evening offering took place at 3 p.m. (See Mishnah, Tamid 3:7; Josephus, Antiquities 14.4.3; Philo, Special Laws, 1:169).
The New Tamid
With that information in mind, go back to the Synoptic accounts of Jesus' death on Good Friday. Remarkably, the Gospel of Mark makes very clear that Jesus' passion and death coincided with the offerings of the perpetual sacrifice:
And it was the third hour (9a.m.), when they crucified him (Mark 15:25).
And when the sixth hour had come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour (3 p.m.). And at the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabacthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"... And Jesus uttered a loud cry, and breathed his last. (Mark 15:33-37)
Notice that Mark twice states that Jesus expired at the ninth hour, 3 o'clock. Why the emphasis? Apart from historical accuracy, what is Mark trying to communicate?
I would suggest that both chronological references are meant to tie Jesus' passion and death to the perpetual sacrifice being offered in the Temple: the bloody sacrifice of the unblemished lambs and the unbloody sacrifice of cakes and wine. In other words, Mark is showing us that Jesus is the true Tamid, the true perpetual sacrifice, who replaces the atoning power of the Temple cult. Perhaps this is why he stresses the effect of Jesus' death on the Temple:
"And Jesus uttered a loud cry and breathed his last. And the veil of the Temple was torn in two, from top to bottom." (Mark 15:37-38)
In short, there is no reason to strain to connect the hour of Jesus' death with the Passover lambs that had been offered Thursday afternoon. For there was another sacrificial lamb, that was directly linked to atonement, which was being offered at the very hours of his crucifixion and death.
Now, I should probably stop here. But since it's Good Friday, I'll make one last point.
What Were the Jews in the Temple Praying for when Jesus Died?
According to ancient Jewish tradition, as found in the Mishnah and Talmuds, the daily Tamid was not just about sacrifice; it was also accompanied by prayers, which Jews everywhere would say while the sacrifices were being offered in the Temple. According to these traditions, a series of blessings, commonly known as the "Eighteen Benedictions," were being said by Jews everywhere in union with the Tamid (b. Ber. 26b; Gen. R. lxviii). Remarkably, the Rabbis claim that this was taking place even during the Second Temple Period (see Babylonian Talmud, Ber.33a, Meg. 17b.)--with the exception of the benediction against the "heretics," which the Rabbis say was added by Gamaliel II at Yabneh after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70A.D. (see b. Ber. 28b).
Now, before you balk at the idea of using Talmudic traditions to reconstruct Second Temple practices, recall that the New Testament itself tells us that Jesus own followers would go up to the Temple at the hours of the perpetual sacrifice to pray. This is explicit in the book of Acts:
Now Peter and John went up to the Temple at the hour of prayer, the ninth hour (=3p.m.) (Acts 3:1; cf. 2:15).
The question is: What prayers were Jews saying while the Tamid was being sacrificed in the first century? On the one hand, we could say, 'we don't have any idea'. On the other hand, ancient Jewish tradition, provides a rather concrete answer: it tells us that the Eighteen Benedictions were being prayed at that time.
What is striking about these prayers is this: If these ancient Jewish traditions are correct--and I realize that this is disputed--then what follows below are the kind of things the Jews in the Temple would have been praying for while the Tamid was being sacrificed and while Jesus was dying on the Cross:
1. According to Jewish tradition, at 9a.m. and 3p.m., the Jews in the Temple would have been praying for redemption:
"Look upon our affliction and plead our cause,and redeem us speedily for your name's sake, for you are a mighty redeemer. Blessed are you, O Lord, the redeemer of Israel." (7th Benediction)
2. According to Jewish tradition, at 9a.m. and 3p.m., the Jews in the Temple would have been praying for the forgiveness of sins:
"Forgive us, O our Father, for we have sinned; pardon us, O our King, for we have transgressed; for you pardon and forgive. Blessed are you, O Lord, who is merciful and always ready to forgive." (6th Benediction)
3. According to Jewish tradition, at 9a.m. and 3p.m., the Jews in the Temple would have praying for the coming of the Messiah:
"Speedily cause the offspring of your servant David to flourish, and let him be exalted by your saving power, for we wait all day long for your salvation. Blessed are you, O Lord, who causes salvation to flourish." (15th Benediction)
4. In fact, according to Jewish tradition, at 9a.m. and 3p.m., the Jews in the Temple would have been praying for the resurrection of the dead:
"You, O Lord, are mighty forever, you revive the dead, you have the power to save. You sustain the living with lovingkindness, you revive the dead with great mercy, you support the falling, heal the sick, set free the bound and keep faith with those who sleep in the dust... Who resembles you, a king who puts to death and restores to life, and causes salvation to flourish? And you are certain to revive the dead. Blessed are you, O Lord, who revives the dead." (2nd Benediction)
In short, if these traditional prayers do in fact go back to the Second Temple period, then something remarkable emerges. For we find a plausible explanation for why Mark emphasizes Jesus' crucifixion and death as corresponding to the hours of 9a.m. and 3p.m.. We find that ancient Jews were praying for the very things Christians believe were dispensed by Jesus on the Cross, at the very hour he was dispensing them.

Have a blessed Triduum and a holy Easter.


48 comments:

Nathan Eubank said...

Fascinating post! Thanks.

Note the typo: the 9th hour = 3pm not 9am.

Brant Pitre said...

Thanks Nathan!
(I fixed the typo.)
Hope you have a blessed Easter, and keep in touch.

Pax.

dunhamjeremy said...

Glory to Jesus Christ-

Thank you for posting such a wonderful article!

Have a blessed Good Friday and holy Pascha.

Anonymous said...

Stupendous Post, but does this change our belief that Jesus is the Passover Lamb?

Mr. Mandala said...

One must take care before attempting to out-sleuth the supersleuth Raymond Brown, whose insight bordered on psychic awareness. Events of great power often do synchronize with the mundane, pointing out the significance of the moment. To associate the all-powerful Redemption with the common daily sacrifice in the Temple, belittles the former. As Paul was quick to grasp, this supreme sacrifice by YHVH's true High Priest, once and for all appeased the Lord God.

Josephus was not a priest, he was a socialite climbing the ladder of fame. Hardly a reputable source, yet the only one we have outside the Gospels.

The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ by the visionary Anne Catherine Emmerich agrees with Raymond's insight, synchronizing the two events. Mel Gibson had the chance to juxtapose the lambs' slayings with the Christ's but apparently missed this potentially powerful cinematic moment.

Have a great Easter yourself, just remember to be careful stepping on someone's toes that are bigger than yours.

Mr. Mandala said...

From the Dolorous Passion

"The High Priests had recommenced the sacrifice of the Paschal lamb (which had been stopped by the unexpected darkness), and they were triumphing at the return of light, when suddenly the ground beneath them trembled, the neighbouring buildings fell down, and the veil of the Temple was rent in two from the top to the bottom. Excess of terror at first rendered those on the outside speechless, but after a time they burst forth into cries and lamentations. The confusion in the interior of the Temple was not, however, as great as would naturally have been expected, because the strictest order and decorum were always enforced there, particularly with regard to the regulations to be followed by those who entered to make their sacrifice, and those who left after having offered it. The crowd was great, but the ceremonies were so solemnly carried out by the priests, that they totally engrossed the minds of the assistants. First came the immolation of the lamb, then the sprinkling of its blood, accompanied by the chanting of canticles and the sounding of trumpets. The priests were endeavouring to continue the sacrifices, when suddenly an unexpected and most appalling pause ensued; terror and astonishment were depicted on each countenance; all was thrown into confusion; not a sound was heard; the sacrifices ceased; there was a general rush to the gates of the Temple; every one endeavoured to fly as quickly as possible. And well might they fly, well might they fear and tremble; for in the midst of the multitude there suddenly appeared persons who had been dead and buried for many years! These persons looked at them sternly, and reproved them most severely for the crime they had committed that day, in bringing about the death of ‘the just man,’ and calling down his blood upon their heads. Even in the midst of this confusion, some attempts were, however, made by the priests to preserve order; they prevented those who were in the inner part of the Temple from rushing forward, pushing their way through the crowds who were in advance of them, and descending the steps which led out of the Temple: they even continued the sacrifices in some parts, and endeavoured to calm the fears of the people."

Bruce Killian said...

Brant,
Excellent insight.
From your own notes Jesus did die when the passover lambs were being slain, which is what I think most call attention to, not through the whole period. John 19:14 is 6AM He uses Roman not Jewish times. I did a nearly complete article showing how many things Jesus fulfilled of the Passover Sacrifice. Including his cross being made from a worn out Temple doorway. http://www.scripturescholar.com/JesusOurPassover.htm
grace and peace,
Bruce

T said...

Thanks, Dr. Pitre!

Have a blessed Easter!

-T. Seghers

Paul Bernacchio said...

Dr. Pitre,
Thanks for all your work. A Blessed and Happy Easter to you and your family.
Yours-In-Christ
Paul Bernacchio

Anonymous said...

I once saw Marianne Meye Thompson give a lecture at Duke where she demonstrated Brown's error and traced it forward through commentary after commentary after commentary. A thing of beauty, that lecture.

Brant Pitre said...

Anonymous--
This most certainly does NOT change the fact that Jesus is the true Passover lamb. For one thing, St. Paul explicitly states: "Christ our Passover has been sacrificed; therefore let us keep the feast" (1 Cor 5:7). Moreover, Jesus himself identifies himself as the Paschal lamb when he replaces the body and blood of the Passover Lamb with the sacrifice of his own body and blood at the Last Supper, his final Passover (Matt 26; Mark 14; Luke 22). He need not die at the exact same time as the Passover lambs when he has already identified himself with the Lamb at the LS. Remember, with every typological prefiguration there is both similarity and dissimilarity, otherwise the type would BE the reality. (I stole that from Aquinas, Summa Theologica, III.48.A.3, ad. 3).

Bruce--
Thanks for the link; I'll check it out. Although my initial reaction is to find it hard to believe that Jesus' dialogue with Pilate, the scourging at the pillar, and the demand of the crowds for Jesus to be crucified--John 18:28-John 19:13--took place BEFORE sunrise around 6am? (On this question, you should check out Summa Theologica, III.46.A.9, which deals with the timing issue and the apparent discrepancy.)

Mr. Mandala--
Thanks for the comments. Several points.
1. With all due respect, I'm not interested in Raymond Brown's shoe size, but in whether he has EVIDENCE to support his position. A good sleuth finds clues; he does not make things up. (You might be interested to know that he himself quietly backed away from this earlier theory in a footnote in his later work, The Death of the Messiah, b/c of the lack of evidence.)

2. Josephus WAS a priest, and he is NOT the "only source we have outside the Gospels." As I said above, the argument against Brown's position is supported by the Mishnah and Philo, not to mention Jubilees 49 and the Babylonian Talmud. Whether he sought to climb the social ladder is totally irrelevant; how would altering the times the Tamid was offered in the Temple in his massive history of the Jews aid him in that task? I don't follow .

3. Anne Emmerich is certainly among the Blessed, but you should take care not to confuse public revelation in Scripture with private visions. The latter must always bow to the former. (See Catechism of the Catholic Church, 67) And it is Scripture that is explicit that Jesus celebrated the Last Supper on "the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrificed the Passover lamb" (Mark 14:12; Luke 22:7). In other words, if the Last Supper was eaten on the same day the Jews were sacrificing the lambs in the Temple--i.e., Thursday--then the lambs were not being sacrificed the next day, when Jesus was crucified, whatever Gibson may depict in the Passion movie. But if you want extrabiblical Catholic authorities (beyond Brown) in support of this chronology, check out the Catechism of the Council of Trent (section on Eucharist), the decrees of the Council of Trent on the Eucharist (session XXII), Thomas Aquinas Summa Theologica, III.46.A.9)--all of which assert that Jesus instituted the Eucharist on the night the Jews celebrated the Passover meal.

Therese and Paul--
Great to hear from you both!
Therese, I saw you in Church today!
Holy Triduum and Happy Easter to all.

George said...

good job on this RC friend.
for anyone who wants to see the resolution of the timing of the pesaH and Yeshu`a's timeline, see the book "Palestine calling" by Dr. W.M. Christie.
He solves the timing in the early part of the 20th century, but it's not been picked up by any theological books. The trick is to understand the two differing ways Sadducees vs Pharisees calculated the PesaH at the time.

Brandy Miller said...

Luke 23:44-46 It was now about noon and darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon because of an eclipse of the sun. Then the veil of the temple was torn down the middle. Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Father into your hands I commend my spirit"; and when he had said this he breathed his last.

Thus, Jesus died at the time the lambs were being slaughtered which has been the point of those homilies and lectures.

Anonymous said...

Jewish tradition also maintains that for 40 years before the Temple was destroyed, the sacrifices were no longer accepted.

Josh McManaway said...

What a post. Wow.

John Bergsma said...

Brant:

You should explain, then, John's timing. I've been guilty myself of repeating Brown's point, assuming that he had evidence to back it up. I also find it difficult to believe that all the passover lambs for the pilgrims to Jerusalem, which Josephus puts at a very high number, could have been sacrificed in two hours (3pm-5pm).

pax tecum,

John

Geoffrey Miller said...

"The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ by the visionary Anne Catherine Emmerich agrees with Raymond's insight, synchronizing the two events."

Yes, and I think both Fr. Raymond and Bl. Emmerich are kooks bordering on the heretical.

According to Catholic mystic Anne Catherine Emmerich, "I saw the curse pronounced by Noah upon Ham moving toward the latter like a black cloud and obscuring him. His skin lost its whiteness, he grew darker. His sin was the sin of sacrilege, the sin of one who would forcibly enter the Ark of the Covenant. I saw a most corrupt race descend from Ham and sink deeper and deeper in darkness. I see that the black, idolatrous, stupid nations are the descendants of Ham. Their color is due, not to the rays of the sun, but to the dark source whence those degraded races sprang"

According to Fr. Raymond, in a detailed 1965 article in the journal Theological Studies examining whether Jesus was ever called "God" in the New Testament, Brown concluded that "Even the fourth Gospel never portrays Jesus as saying specifically that he is God" and "there is no reason to think that Jesus was called God in the earliest layers of New Testament tradition." He argued that, "Gradually, in the development of Christian thought God was understood to be a broader term. It was seen that God had revealed so much of Himself in Jesus that God had to be able to include both Father and Son."

I'd rather not place much credence in a racist mystic or a modernist bubblehead.

Christopher said...

Peace!

Added note:

I believe this was referenced by the Holy Father back in '06. There were actually two Jewish Calendars in use at that time: The Traditional (used by the Essenes) and the New (Pharisaic/Sadducees).

The descrpency of the one day for Passover between John and the Synoptic accounts is taken by the scholarship that was unavailable to even the pre-Nicene post Essene Fathers of the Church. It was only after the Dead Sea Scroll had been translated that we knew such a thing. Pope Benedict XVI made reference to this a few summers ago in a weekly address.

Bruce Killian said...

Brant,
Thomas realized that there were two possible Passover days presented in the gospels, but he did not successfully reconcile the problem. Annie Jaubert a Catholic scholar wrote a book about 1960 (I can’t find it right now) The Date of the Last Supper that from the Dead Sea scrolls convincingly places the Last Supper on Tuesday evening the Biblically correct date by a solar year reckoning (and presented in the Synoptic Gospels) and the crucifixion on Friday by the official (proclaimed by the Chief Priests) Lunar-Solar reckoning both as Passover (given by John). The anointing in Bethany was both 2 days before the Passover Mar 14:1) and 6 days before the Passover (John 12:1). John's time for Jesus' condemnation at 6AM makes sense in the light of Matt 12:40-41 if one considers that Jesus could be considered in the tomb from that time and there was and extra day and night due to the 3 hours of darkness. So from dawn Friday to before dawn Sunday was 3 days and 3 nights. And there were literal 3 days and 3 nights from His condemnation by the Sanhedrin Thursday at dawn. It is nearly impossible to squeeze all of the trials in the allotted time because they could not leave the Seder until midnight then crossing the Kidron Valley and then 3 hours of watching. So Jesus’ arrest has to be after 3 AM.
Grace and peace,
Bruce

Moonshadow said...

Jesus, the true Passover lamb, was being led to the cross to take away the sins of the world. ... There's only one problem with Brown's theory;

Dr. Pitre, isn't the other problem that the Passover lamb doesn't atone for sin?

Anonymous said...

@ Geoffrey Miller's comment above: calling Brown a "modernist bubblehead" is quite ridiculous. I have his "Intro to NT Christology" in which he devotes several pages to a careful examination of whether the NT calls Jesus "God." He concludes that it does in several instances. You may not have understood him because he didn't speak in slogans, but don't call him a bubblehead. He's a scholar, and as the blog author notes, he did subtly retract his point in a later work. Aside from the humble Augustine, scholars don't usually shout their mistakes from the mountaintops when they realize them.

Jim Krueger said...

Thanks for confirming my skepticism of this oft-repeated remark for which I had seen no hard evidence. I've also seen/heard it said that Bethlehem supplied the lambs for Passover. Is that a pious invention as well?

Even if the hour does not precisely line up, you still must admit that John puts altogether to much emphasis on Jesus as "Lamb of God" (also "not a bone of it shall be broken") for there not to be a connection between Jesus and the slaughter of passover lambs. It's just a literary/theological connection in the Johannine style, not a chronological connection pinned down to a single moment. I doubt the slaughter of thousands of lambs would have a precise starting/ending time anyway.

Blessings on the bloggers and all readers for a joyous Easter season!

Justin said...

If the Passover was on Thursday, then wouldn't Friday have been a Passover "High Sabbath" day of rest? How would they have been able to crucify Christ on this day, since, to my understanding, it involves the same principles as the 7th day Sabbath (i.e. no work).

Tim said...

I read the Mishnah's Tamid tractates and could find no indication that the morning sacrifice occured at 9 a.m. It says it was at dawn. I will check again

De Maria said...

You said:
there was one other sacrifice that was going on in the Temple when Jesus was crucified on Good Friday: the perpetual sacrifice, known as the Tamid.
Strangely, this sacrifice, which is forgotten by almost everyone, was arguably the most memorable of all the Jewish sacrifices, since it happened every day, twice a day.


That would certainly fit in with the fact that our Christian Passover, the Mass, is a daily event.

De Maria said...

As we pray, we believe.

The revelations of Bl. Anne Emerich are not binding upon us. But the Tradition of the Catholic Church is that the Last Supper occurred on a Thursday. But Bruce says:

The Date of the Last Supper that from the Dead Sea scrolls convincingly places the Last Supper on Tuesday evening the Biblically correct date by a solar year reckoning (and presented in the Synoptic Gospels) and the crucifixion on Friday by the official (proclaimed by the Chief Priests) Lunar-Solar reckoning both as Passover (given by John).

Therefore, I find that reckoning doubtful.

According to Matt 26:
17Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

18And he said, Go into the city to such a man, and say unto him, The Master saith, My time is at hand; I will keep the passover at thy house with my disciples.

19And the disciples did as Jesus had appointed them; and they made ready the passover.

20Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.

21And as they did eat, ....

This is the same day. The day of the Last Supper.

Now, if we skip down to Matt 27, we read:
Matthew 27

1When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people took counsel against Jesus to put him to death:

and also:
45Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.

46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

57When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:

62Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate,

What amount of time has elapsed between the Last Supper and Jesus death on the Cross? Not two days. Not even 24 hours according to Matthew's account. Therefore, if the Church is correct, which I firmly believe She is, the Last Supper was on Holy Thursday and Jesus was crucified on Holy Friday.

Sincerely,

De Maria

מיכאל said...

Nice work. You're aware that the "Passover" referred to in John 18:28 was not the Paschal lamb but the Chaggiga?

Your thoughts?

Unknown said...

these benedictions are amazing! lets also remember that the early church was almost entirely jewish. all the apostles were jewish. probably every writer of the new testament was jewish. and jesus is a jew. it is also easy to imagine that if jews comprise 0,2% of the world population, that they probably comprise a similar percentage, if not higher, of the world church population. plus there is still a plan for the jews that will kick in according to Rom11.

lets separate any wall that exists in our mind between jew and gentile. let us conform with Eph2:15 in the "one new man". and realise the debt that we owe the jewish people according to Rom15:27. let us repent (and change) what has led to around 1800 years of christian anti-semitism led by the catholic church.

Unknown said...

and lets not miss the obvious - that jesus did in fact give up his spirit at the hour of the sacrifice of the PASSOVER lamb: 3pm!

this also helps to remind us that it was HIM who gave Himself for us, and that neither Jews, nor Romans/Italians, nor Gentiles should get the stick for this! 1John3:16, 1Pet1:18-20, John3:16, Rom5:8, Rev1:5, John10:11,17-18, Isaiah53:4-6, Acts3:17-19, Acts4:25-28

The point of Jesus being our lamb is that God wanted to line up his message in Christ with the law and the prophets of the Old Testament / Tanach. So that everything is fulfilled and because his message is designed for the Jewish people - Acts13:26-33 – and by the Jewish people – Gen22:18 - whom he loves desperately – Matt23:37 – and STILL (how can God change?) considers to be the sensitive iris of his eye – Zech2:8. Watch out!

elderchild said...

The following scriptures confirm the day The Messiah Resurrected:

Luke 24:1,13,21 - (1) "Now upon The 1ST DAY of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

(13) And, behold, two of them went THAT SAME DAY(1st Day) to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.

(21) But we trusted that it had been He which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, TODAY IS THE THIRD DAY(which was yet the 1st Day of the week) since these things were done."

5th Day.. The Messiah crucified.......
6th Day.. The Day after The Messiah was crucified.......
7th Day.. The Second Day after The Messiah was crucified.......
1st Day.. "TODAY IS THE THIRD DAY since these things were done"!

There are many who believe that The Messiah rose again on the 7th Day, yet the above testimony confirms that The Messiah Rose Again on the 1st Day, and that the 1st Day was the third day since The Messiah was crucified.......

So when was The Messiah crucified?

The Messiah testified that he would be "in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights".

Quite simply the scriptures reveal He Arose prior to sunrise the 1st Day........

5th day/day = 1st day......... The Messiah was crucified and died.
6th day/night = 1st night....

6th day/day = 2nd day........
7th day/night = 2nd night...

7th day/day = 3rd day.........
1st day/night = 3rd night.... He Is Risen! NEW Life IS!

HalleluYAH!

The Messiah was crucified the 5th day, day, which would be Thursday, sometime after sunrise and before sunset, according to the gregorian calendar.

"Three days and three nights" just as The Messiah prophesied!

Thankfully TRUTH IS! in spite of religion.......

Simply, religion is anti-messiah!

So it is that multiplied billions have been killed and enslaved (in physical chains at times, yet mostly in the chains of strong delusion that is the commandments and doctrines of men) in the name of the god[s] of this, or that, religion!

For the fruit of death is bore of religion's way )-;
Because life is but a pawn in the wicked game they play!

And because of pagan catholicism and her harlot christian daughters "The Way of Truth is evil spoken"!

"Come out of her(babel/dis-order/babylon\world\religion), MY people"!

Seek and desire to have your portion in The Family of Our Father and GOD, "of WHOM the whole Family in Heaven and ON EARTH is named"! (Eph3:15)

And NEW "Yerusalem" which IS above IS free, and IS !NOW! the mother of us all(sons of Our Father(Abba) and GOD(Elohim)"! (Gal4:26)

Father Help! and HE does.......

De Maria said...

מיכאל said...
Nice work. You're aware that the "Passover" referred to in John 18:28 was not the Paschal lamb but the Chaggiga?

Your thoughts?
8:04 AM


I don't know to whom you addressed the question. But since I don't see an answer, I'll reply.

I don't know what is a Chaggiga. But it isn't important. Nor is it important whether the Last Supper was a Jewish Passover. What is important is that Jesus established the first Christian Passover on Holy Thursday.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Anonymous said...

There are couple problems in this teaching.First, there is no "good Friday".Messiah was not crucified on a Friday.An understanding of the passover as commanded in Leviticus 23 and simple math based on the creators reckoning of time will give you the correct day Messiah was crucified.First, days are reckoned from sunset to sunset, a day ends when the sun sets and a new day begins, study this out and you will come to the same conclusion.Second, the day after the passover was the first day of unleavened bread,and was a high sabbath when no work was to be done, just as on a regular weekly sabbath. Christians ignorantly believe that Messiah was crucified on Friday night because the gospels tell us that the next day was a sabbath (matthew 28:1), and therefore knowing that the actual biblical sabbath is Saturday as we call it, the seventh day of the week, and not sunday as the catholics changed it too, christians assume that Messiah must have been crucified on Friday.But what most christians don't realize is that Leviticus 23 calls the day after passover a sabbath of rest.So Messiah was crucified on Passover,the next day, His first being in the grave,was a sabbath,then there was His second day in the grave, a regular day, then there was a third day in the grave, also called a sabbath, the weekly sabbath,and then He rose early as it dawned into the first of the week (matthew 28:1). If you do the math,remembering that days start and end at sunset, then you get Messiah being crucified Wednesday night, not friday, and rising just before the sun sets on Saturday night, on the sabbath,just before the first day of the week, not on it. Wednesday night to thursday night is one day one night, thursday night to Friday night is second day and night, Friday night to Saturday night is the third day and night, if He rose on the first day of the week then He would have been in the grave four days and three nights.Besides this, there is no way that He was crucified 24 hours after the passover lambs had been sacrificed as according to this teaching, just read John 18:28, the Jews had not eaten the passover lamb yet, it hadn't been sacrificed, and wouldn't be until that upcoming evening. I have much more to say on this whole issue, if any are interested to corrospond with me, either by email or phone to discuss these things further please contact me.My email is Messianicadventureny@yahoo.com Be blessed.

De Maria said...

Anonymous said...
There are couple problems in this teaching.First, there is no "good Friday".


Upon what authority are you standing here? Your own? We are followers of the Catholic Church. We celebrate Good Friday every year as we have for centuries.

1 Timothy 3:15
But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Anonymous said...

De Maria,
I left another response but for some reason it didn't get published.understand that I'm not trying to argue,my only interest is the truth of Scripture.I understand that the church has done many things for centuries,but that does not negate our responsability to search out the truth of what we are taught. In the end we will each stand before Messiah to be judged according to our works, we alone,no other person is responsable for our walk of faith,no pastor,preacher,priest,rabbi,church father or seminary professor.we need to be assured that we are walking in the truth, and the only way to do that is to study the Word. What I said was on the only authority that there is, the Word, the Bible, If we are true believers then we should not fear to compare what we have been taught to the Word, and be willing to discard any false teachings that we may have inherited. Truth is Truth,and in the end His Truth will be all that matters. It's not Truth that we should fear but rather error. There are many Truths of Scripture that are not understood to most believers, not being taught in the church, ask me what they are and I will tell you.But the choice to know truth is yours alone. In Peace, a Brother in Faith

Anonymous said...

De Maria,
I left another response but for some reason it didn't get published.understand that I'm not trying to argue,my only interest is the truth of Scripture.I understand that the church has done many things for centuries,but that does not negate our responsability to search out the truth of what we are taught. In the end we will each stand before Messiah to be judged according to our works, we alone,no other person is responsable for our walk of faith,no pastor,preacher,priest,rabbi,church father or seminary professor.we need to be assured that we are walking in the truth, and the only way to do that is to study the Word. What I said was on the only authority that there is, the Word, the Bible, If we are true believers then we should not fear to compare what we have been taught to the Word, and be willing to discard any false teachings that we may have inherited. Truth is Truth,and in the end His Truth will be all that matters. It's not Truth that we should fear but rather error. There are many Truths of Scripture that are not understood to most believers, not being taught in the church, ask me what they are and I will tell you.But the choice to know truth is yours alone. In Peace, a Brother in Faith

De Maria said...

Anonymous, that's not what Scripture says:

Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Hebrews 13:17
King James Version (KJV)
17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Scripture tells us to obey the Church.

Anonymous said...

De Maria,
When the religious system of the first century tried to tell the apostles to stop preaching in the name of Jesus they said this,

Acts 5:27-29
27. And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest asked them,
28. saying, We strictly charged you not to teach in this name: and behold, ye have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and intend to bring this man's blood upon us.
29. But Peter and the apostles answered and said, We must obey God rather than men.

If anyone teaches us to do something that is contrary to the Truth of the Scripture we are freed from obeying their instructions.Take the example of a child to a parent,

Ephesians 6:1
1. Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.

It's clear that if a parent is asking a child to sin that that child is exempt from obeying the instruction of their parents. Do you really believe that the Heavenly Father is going to chastise you for obeying His Word rather than live in sin?Which do you think is more important to Him,to obey His voice and live in truth and righetousness or to follow whatever someone says whether it be according to the Bible or not just because they say they are in charge of you? When we stand before Messiah on Judgment day He will be looking for those whom He "knows"

Matthew 7:22-23
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

And John tells us how to be sure that we Know Him and are known by Him,

1 John 2:3
3. And hereby we know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

If we keep His commandments, not the commandments of men. Remember this, we have only one "head" over us, many have been taught that it is the church,but what does the Scripture tell us,

Ephesians 1:22-23
22. and he put all things in subjection under his feet, and gave him to be head over all things to the church,
23. which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

Anonymous said...

Who is the church spoken of here? It is not an organization or religion, the Church, the Body, is the whole of believers in Messiah, every individual one of us, and He is the Head of us, He makes the rules and we are accountable to Him alone. We have only one master,


Matthew 23:10
10. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your master, even the Christ.

Jesus taught against having religious heads over us,

Matthew 20:25-26
25. But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them.
26. Not so shall it be among you: but whosoever would become great among you shall be your minister;

I promise you that the will of the Father is that you should have a personal relationship with Him through the atoning work of His only Begotten Son, and that you should learn to walk in His ways, by the example of His Son, and that you should learn to obey Him and Keep His commandments over and before all other things.One question I might ask of you. Do you really think that it will be well with you if one day you stand before the judgment seat only to find out that you have lived in sin and error and your only excuse is that you were only doing what other men told you to do? Here is an example that may clarify what I am trying to say. Imagine that a parent has a child who goes to school every day. The parent tells the child that they are to obey the teachers while at school, they are in charge of the kids so obey whatever they tell you to do. But the parent has also told the child on many occasions not to do drugs, to do drugs is wrong.But one day the teacher tells the child to do drugs, and so the child does the drugs because they were told to obey the teachers. Does this make doing drugs right for the child, or should the child have been taught that they only obey the teachers as long as they don't tell them to do something that disobeys the parents instructions. The Scriptures teach us to obey the Father first and foremost. If our teachers or the church teach us according to His commandments then it is right to obey them, and we will be commended for doing so in the age to come. If they tell us to do contrary to the Fathers will, and we do so, then we will be condemed in the age to come, because we knew to do better but didn't, because He warned us that wolves would come to scatter the sheep and that we should test every spirit and every prophecy and every teaching to the Scriptures before following it. Please, obey the Father and His truth, not the doctrines of man. In loving Peace.

De Maria said...

Anonymous,

Scripture tells me to obey the Church (Matt 18:17). Are you telling me to disobey the Church in defiance of the Scripture?

De Maria said...

Anonymous said...
Who is the church spoken of here?



The Catholic Church.

It is not an organization or religion, the Church, the Body, is the whole of believers in Messiah, every individual one of us, and He is the Head of us,

It is the Church which Scripture describes as:

infallible (1 Tim 3:15; Eph 3:10).

led by a Shepherd appointed by Jesus Christ (John 21:17).

feeds you the body and blood of Christ (1 Cor 10:16)

passes down the Gospel in Tradition and Scripture (2 Thess 2:15).

It is the Catholic Church which is described in the New Testament. Because the New Testament was written by the Catholic Church.

He makes the rules and we are accountable to Him alone. We have only one master,

We are accountable to any whom He has put as leaders in the Church (Heb 13:17).

Matthew 23:10
10. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your master, even the Christ.

Jesus taught against having religious heads over us,


Jesus placed religious leaders over us:
Matthew 28:19-20
King James Version (KJV)
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Matthew 20:25-26
25. But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great ones exercise authority over them.
26. Not so shall it be among you: but whosoever would become great among you shall be your minister;

I promise you that the will of the Father is that you should have a personal relationship with Him through the atoning work of His only Begotten Son,

This is true, that is why we participate in the Holy Eucharist:
Hebrews 10:25-31
King James Version (KJV)
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

cont'd

De Maria said...

cont'd

and that you should learn to walk in His ways, by the example of His Son, and that you should learn to obey Him and Keep His commandments over and before all other things.

Absolutely! That is all Catholic Doctrine.

One question I might ask of you. Do you really think that it will be well with you if one day you stand before the judgment seat only to find out that you have lived in sin and error and your only excuse is that you were only doing what other men told you to do?

I would truly be surprised if that were the case.

But that question cuts both ways. How will you feel if when you come to the judgment seat you find out you have been living in sin and error and your only excuse is that you misunderstood the Scripture?

Here is an example that may clarify what I am trying to say. Imagine that a parent has a child who goes to school every day. The parent tells the child that they are to obey the teachers while at school, they are in charge of the kids so obey whatever they tell you to do. But the parent has also told the child on many occasions not to do drugs, to do drugs is wrong.But one day the teacher tells the child to do drugs, and so the child does the drugs because they were told to obey the teachers. Does this make doing drugs right for the child, or should the child have been taught that they only obey the teachers as long as they don't tell them to do something that disobeys the parents instructions.

Here's what I'm trying to say to you. Say that the parent says to the child, "here, follow the instructions in this book and fix your car. But the books says, "be careful, there are some things here that are hard to understand (2 Pet 3:16). But the child goes ahead and interprets it for himself, misunderstands the instruction and winds up blowing himself up.

The Scriptures teach us to obey the Father first and foremost. If our teachers or the church teach us according

The Scripture tells us to obey the Church. It is from the Church that we learn the will of the Father.

to His commandments then it is right to obey them, and we will be commended for doing so in the age to come.

Amen. You can't keep the Commandments and disobey the Church.

If they tell us to do contrary to the Fathers will, and we do so, then we will be condemed in the age to come, because we knew to do better but didn't, because He warned us that wolves would come to scatter the sheep and that we should test every spirit and every prophecy and every teaching to the Scriptures before following it. Please, obey the Father and His truth, not the doctrines of man.

I offer you the same advice. Obey the Doctrines of God as taught through His Church, the Catholic Church. All others are doctrines of men.

In loving Peace.

And also with you,

Sincerely,

De Maria

Anonymous said...

Truth is a tricky thing.You would think it would be easy to accept truth because honestly, who wants to walk in a lie.But sometimes truth calls us to change what we believe or how we live,and change is hard,especially if it's the root and core of our spiritual being that is being challenged.despite the appearance we actually believe quite the same in many areas,I believe in the inspiration of the Bible, what it says about the Creator and His only Son, about Sin and Righteousness,about heaven and hell,and Salvation.But the Bible is a big book,and there is alot more to it than many ever care to study out.people have a way of putting too much Faith in the teahers they have paid to stand in front of them rather in the leading of the Spirit to guide them into all truth.Not that teachers are bad,the Bible says that there will be teachers and pastors over us,but we are not called to follow blindly.My original comment was one of Truth based on what the Bible actually says,that being that the Messiah was actually crucified on a wednesday night and not a Friday,and that He was crucified at the same time the passover lambs were being slaughtered.In my next post I will speak of a few more Truths straight from the Bible.

Anonymous said...

The problem with accepting that you may have been taught wrong on one thing is that they you're forced to question everything,which is actually good,Scripture says "Taste and see that the LORD is good",Test what you have been told is truth,the Bible and Certainly the Creator can stand up to the test I promise.Two more truths to ponder.Proverbs 30:4 ask a question,
Proverbs 30:4
4. Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended? Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound the waters in his garment? Who hath established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou knowest?

So, what are their names? One is quick to say Jesus and God or LORD or Jehovah.But these are not true.Did you know that the first half of the Bible was written primarily in Hebrew and that the Creator spoke first to mankind in a Hebrew language,and gave Himself a Hebrew Name and His Son,who Himself was a Hebrew with Hebrew parents and Hebrew friends living in the land of Israel.What does this mean?that neither of them would have had English titles or names,English hadn't even become a language yet.So what are their Names?There's not enough room here for a good study,but in short the Creators Name is Yahweh,He is not called God anywhere in The originaly written Scriptures but rather the Hebrew word Elohim, which means mighty One,which I find quite fitting.The Messiah's Name is Yahushua, not Jesus.What we have in our Bibles is an English transliteration of a Latin transliteration of a Greek transliteration of His original Hebrew Name.The letter J didn't even exist until some five hundred years ago, the original 1611 King James Bible spells His name as "Iesus",look it up.If interested to know what in the world I'm talking about email me or give me your email,and I'll be happy to talk to you of Truth.

messianicadventureny@yahoo.com

De Maria said...

Anonymous said...
Truth is a tricky thing.You would think it would be easy to accept truth because honestly, who wants to walk in a lie.But sometimes truth calls us to change what we believe or how we live,and change is hard,especially if it's the root and core of our spiritual being that is being challenged.


Agreed.

despite the appearance we actually believe quite the same in many areas,

Agreed.

I believe in the inspiration of the Bible, what it says about the Creator and His only Son, about Sin and Righteousness,about heaven and hell,and Salvation.

As do I.

But the Bible is a big book,and there is alot more to it than many ever care to study out.

True. That is why Jesus Christ established a Church to teach us that which we would not study on our own.

people have a way of putting too much Faith in the teahers they have paid to stand in front of them rather in the leading of the Spirit to guide them into all truth.

We put our faith in the Word of God and the Word of God says:
Hebrews 13:7
King James Version (KJV)
7 Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation.

The Word of God also says:
Proverbs 3:5
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Therefore, the Word of God tells us to believe our leaders. And you are telling us to believe YOU. What choice do I have? Why should I believe you above the Word of God?

Not that teachers

By what authority are you a teacher? Why are you here trying to put your authority over the Scripture and over the Church?

are bad,the Bible says that there will be teachers and pastors over us,but we are not called to follow blindly.

True. But what makes you superior to the teachers and pastors which God already set over us in the Church?

My original comment was one of Truth based on what the Bible actually says,

In my opinion, your first comment was one of your personal opinion which goes against what the Bible says.

that being that the Messiah was actually crucified on a wednesday night and not a Friday,and that He was crucified at the same time the passover lambs were being slaughtered.In my next post I will speak of a few more Truths straight from the Bible.

The Catholic Church, the pillar of Truth (1 Tim 3:15) and Teacher of God's wisdom (Eph 3:10) says that the Church teaches the wisdom of God. I choose to believe what the Word of God teaches through His Church.

Sincerely,

De Maria

De Maria said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The problem with accepting that you may have been taught wrong on one thing is that they you're forced to question everything,which is actually good,Scripture says "Taste and see that the LORD is good",Test what you have been told is truth,the Bible and Certainly the Creator can stand up to the test I promise.


That advice cuts both ways. I issue the same challenge to you. The Father, the Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, can stand up to the test, I promise.

Two more truths to ponder.Proverbs 30:4 ask a question,
Proverbs 30:4
4. Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended? Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound the waters in his garment? Who hath established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou knowest?


Jesus Christ.

So, what are their names? One is quick to say Jesus and God or LORD or Jehovah.But these are not true.

Jesus Christ, Our Lord, is the One.

Did you know that the first half of the Bible was written primarily in Hebrew and that the Creator spoke first to mankind in a Hebrew language,and gave Himself a Hebrew Name and His Son,who Himself was a Hebrew with Hebrew parents and Hebrew friends living in the land of Israel.

Yes.

What does this mean?

It means that salvation came through the Hebrews.

that neither of them would have had English titles or names,

True. But you aren't implying that we all need to dump English and begin speaking in Hebrew, are you? Hebrew is not better or more precise than any other language. It is merely one of the languages with which man speaks.

English hadn't even become a language yet.So what are their Names?

Lol! You are one of those who believe that Jesus, the transliteration of Yahushua, is therefore false? What if I told you that Yahushua is also a transliteration? What would you do then? Did you know that Hebrew has no vowels? Therefore, you are here talking to me in English claiming that the ancient English transliteration of Yeshua is false. But the more modern version which you subscribe to is valid. Whereas they are BOTH in English.

How does that make sense? Everything then, that you are saying here, is false. If God in English, does not mean Yahweh or Jehovah, then you are still in your sins as well.

There's not enough room here for a good study,but in short the Creators Name is Yahweh,He is not called God anywhere in The originaly written Scriptures but rather the Hebrew word Elohim, which means mighty One,which I find quite fitting.The Messiah's Name is Yahushua, not Jesus.What we have in our Bibles is an English transliteration of a Latin transliteration of a Greek transliteration of His original Hebrew Name.The letter J didn't even exist until some five hundred years ago, the original 1611 King James Bible spells His name as "Iesus",look it up.If interested to know what in the world I'm talking about email me or give me your email,and I'll be happy to talk to you of Truth.

messianicadventureny@yahoo.com


Ugh! You really need to come to the Church and learn that there is no more Jew or Greek, but only Christ. You wouldn't be caught up in all these legalities. The Doctrines of Christ are spiritual and they will be spiritually discerned. Leave aside all your legalities and come to the Catholic Church, the Pillar and Foundation of the Truth.

2 Corinthians 3:6
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Sincerely,

De Maria

Anonymous said...

Imagine you were stoped by a cop for speeding, doing 70 in a 25 mph,then given a ticket and brought before a judge.The judge will tell you that because you broke the law you were guilty to suffer the penalty,250 thousand dollars and prison time.But then the judge says, however, in the spirit of mercy and grace I'm going to forgive you and let you go, now go and speed no more.What do you think?Does the fact that you now walk free due to the spirit of grace mean that you can drive as fast as you want and the judge will now be ok with it?Think about it.We are all guilty of breaking the Heavenly Fathers Law,thus we are all worthy of the penalty,death and hellfire,but the judge said, wait,I'll forgive you in the spirit of mercy and grace,go and sin no more.What do you think?Now that we've been forgiven by the mercy and grace and now live in the Spirit,is it ok to the judge that we go and sin all we want,or does his law still stand.If we sin again is it still not sin?

Hebrews 10:26
26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,

Romans 3:31
31. Do we then make the law of none effect through faith? God forbid: nay, we establish the law.

De Maria said...

Anonymous,

That's Catholic Doctrine.

However, I do love those verses. Let me provide more context in order that they me be understood in detail.

Hebrews 10:26
26. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,

That is a reference to the Mass, wherein we receive the Body and Blood of the Lord as we participate in His propitiatory sacrifice. Let me provide the context:

Hebrews 10:25-31
King James Version (KJV)
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

What St. Paul is saying, is, if you willfully neglect the Mass, the Christian assembly, you will insult Jesus Christ, because He died in order that you might be saved through the Holy Eucharist which is presented in the Mass

Romans 3:31
31. Do we then make the law of none effect through faith? God forbid: nay, we establish the law.

This is a reference to the Sacraments. When he says, "dow we make the law of none effect through faith?" He means, "do we make the Old Testament law of none effect through the grace we receive in the Sacraments of faith in Jesus Christ?

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

We are justified by submitting to the "faith of Christ", which is the Christian rituals and rites to which we submit, most important of which are the Sacraments.

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

All, meaning Jew and Gentile or Jew and non-Jew have sinned.

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

The redemption that is in Christ Jesus is the Church, the Body of Christ. All who are redeemed are made members of His Body, the Church. And we are all joined to the Church by Baptism.


cont'd

De Maria said...

cont'd response to anonymous

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

Christ has been sacrificed and offered to God for our sins. We receive the grace of His redemption through faith in Christ. Believing that He can wash away our sins in Baptism.

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

And by His obedience to God (righteousness) He offers salvation to all who obey Him.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

The law of faith is the New Testament promise of salvation by the Sacraments of faith. Wherein, God washes us of sins by our expression of faith apart from works.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Therefore, we are justified in the Sacraments, no longer in the Old Testament Law of Moses.

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

Jew and Gentile are open to this salvation by the application of His grace in the Sacraments.

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

All who have faith in Christ may wash in His fountain of grace.

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Does that mean that we can sin at will? No, of course not. One may not wash in the fountain of grace unless one repents of his sins. For it is true today and always:
Romans 2:13
King James Version (KJV)
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

Sincerely,

De Maria