Tuesday, September 05, 2006

Eternal Security?

I know this blog has been a little neglected lately. I've been absolutely swamped in the past couple of weeks getting settled into my office at JP Catholic and preparing for the upcoming quarter. Expect regular blogging to resume shortly...

A couple of things... There has been a great discussion on Romans 9-11 going on over at Scot McKnight's site. I'll have some more to say about that down the road. (I just don't have time right now to assemble all my thoughts). The epilogue of my book Singing In The Reign deals with this section of the epistle.

Side note #2... I was reading through 2 Peter the other day and I was struck by this passage:

"For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overpowered, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, The dog turns back to his own vomit, and the sow is washed only to wallow in the mire" (2 Pet 2:20-22).

If there is anyone out there who believes in eternal security, I am really curious--I mean this in all sincerity--how do you interpret this? I would really like to know.


DimBulb said...

Hi, Mister Barber,

it seems to me that you could have also included verse 15 into your quote from 2 Peter: "abandoning the straight road, they have gone astray, following (a discipleship term) the road of Balaam..."

Also chapter 3:16-17: "in them (Paul's letters) there are some things hard to understand which the ignorant )literally, the undiscipled) and unstable distort to their own destruction, just as they do the rest of scripture. Therefore, beloved, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard not to be led ( a discipleship term) into the the error of the lawless (see 2:21) and to fall from your own stability."

Having left the "holy COMMAND delivered to them" the false teachers in effect became "LAWLESS." Peter is concerned that his readers, who are not "unstable" (they have stability 3:17) will become "undiscipled" by being "led" to "follow" the road of Balaam.

All of this has to be seen against the backdrop of 1:16-21 where Peter tells his readers to remain attentive to the apostolic witness, (vs 19) which we beleive is continued by the magesterium, rather than relying on their own, or others interpretations (vs 21). It seems to me that this letter does not bode well for either the doctrine of eternal security or of sola scriptura. I'd like to know what you think of my short, but I hope, fairly clear, apologetical summary.

A few weeks ago I tagged both you and Mister Aqulina for a five people MeMe.
In his post on this (actually, in his comment box) Mister Aqulina told me to keep reading you because "he's good for the soul". So, although I know you're probably busy, I would appreciate even a short response, Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Hi Mr. Dimbulb,

I loved your commentary, and have noted the verses in my Bible. I live in a world of Protestant Evangelicals (I homescchool and there are almost no Catholics homeschooling in my area)....and the topic of Eternal Security has come up. I was fascinated to note the different responses from the pp in different Protestant tratitions.....I wish I would have had a videocam. At any rate, thank you for the expanded catechesis.