Friday, April 16, 2010

Jesus in England? Scholarship Fail!

Jim West has a post up on this--but I had to cover this here. I just read this aloud to my wife and couldn't finish reading it because I was laughing too hard.

Okay. . . here's the story.
"A recent book and a new documentary film suggest the story [of Jesus' visit to Britain] is both possible and plaus­ible. . ."
Um. . . not really. Trust me, it's not.
"and they provide an explanation as to why the young Jesus might have made the 6,000-mile round trip from his homeland to the edge of the known world."
In other words: "A scholar who has convinced themselves that Jesus must have been to England is now trying to come up with a reason why he must have gone there--because it will sell books and get in the headlines."

Why might Jesus have gone to Britain?

I'm at the edge of my seat. Aren't you? What is this great insight that explains why Jesus must have been to England?

And who is exactly is the scholar who has made this remarkable discovery?
One scholar [there aren't too many others!] who has taken a fresh look at the stories and concluded that they are not as fanciful as might at first appear is Dr Gordon Strachan, a Church of Scotland minister who for many years lectured in the Department of Architecture at Edinburgh University.
What?! Hold on!

Did you catch? This is a minister whose qualifications are listed as a lecturer in the "Department of Architecture"! Architecture?! Yeah. . .
"His book, and the subsequent film based on it, draw on the latest arch├Žological evidence from the Holy Land and take an innovative look at the early history of the Christian church, reaching a challeng­ing conclusion."
Okay. . . are you ready? Here it comes. And the answer as to why Jesus went half-way around the world to go to England is. . .
"That purpose was to study with the Druids."
And there you have it.

I suppose that teaching about the "stone rejected by the builders" refers to Jesus' efforts in building Stonehenge.


Aaron Johnston said...

What will they think of next? I have heard some whoppers in my day but this one is right up there with the lost trible of Israel immigrating to South America.

By the way, great show on CA the other day!

Anonymous said...

Near the end of last year, I had some fun with this story:

Moonshadow said...

You seem to be questioning Dr. Strachan's theological qualifications but a CoS minister who lectures on architecture could be in a league similar to RC priests who specialize in science or art.

Doug Chaplin said...

Like Carl I had some fun with this story when it broke back last year.

The author, AFAIK, had a stroke toward the end of last year so may not be in position to answer justifiable attacks on his "expertise"

Anonymous said...

I heard that Jesus went to India as well. Apparently to learn to meditate. Wow. South America...India...England...I guess New Zealand's next, so He could learn from the Maori.

Nazorean said...

Sorry, but it is you who are lacking scholarship. You rely only on the false gospel stories which were written not by some semi literate Jewish Apostles, but by Roman intellectuals as a tool to combat the spread of the Jewish Messianic movement. If you would read Dead Seal Scroll archivist Joseph Atwill's 'Caesar's Messiah' you will learn that gospel scenes like the empty tomb narrative represent not 4 separate accounts, but one continuous narrative broken down into 4 different versions each starting with and Mary Magdalene came to the tomb. The scene opens with John, then Matthew follows, then Mark and finally Luke.

Atwill also discovered that the so-called ministry of Jesus was actually the military campaign of the Roman Emperor Titus. This most definitely points to a Roman authorship of the Christian scriptures. You can learn more about how the Romans usurped the ancient scriptures of Yeshu and the Nazorean religion and proclaimed them the reveleations of their godman Jesus Christ at You will also find that under this scenario Jesus visiting England meshes perfectly with this scenario.

cappie said...

(Traditional English / Words: William Blake)

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon those clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire!

I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

Dino said...

When I was in public school--so long ago that God could still be mentioned--we were told that during the time between His burial and Ressurrection, Jesus was busy visiting the Mayans and Aztecs.
Why do I thnk of P.T. Barnum when I hear these things?

John said...

This is a blog by 3 PhD Professors. They are obviously handing out PhDs pretty easily nowadays.
The proposition is that Jesus visited England. There is very little beyond tradition to support this notion. But rather than engage with the proposition, the learned professors sole argument is to ridicule the proposal and its proposer. Fortunately Christians haven’t rejected Christ’s teachings because he was only a carpenter’s son, though the learned professors’ argument is that we should have done so.
Various sites argue that Joseph of Arimathea an uncle of the BVM traded in tin and would at least have been aware of the extensive mines in Cornwall, and draw the conclusion he would have visited them, and further extend their theory that the young Christ came along on one of his visits whether to consult with the Druids or not is not particularly relevant. A further tradition is that Joseph returned to England after Christ's death to found a mission there, as a result of being exiled from Palestine. Whilst it is easy to dismiss or ridicule such assertions as appears to be the method of the learned professors, the Vatican has on three occasions recognised England as the country with the earliest church, which some authorities ascribe to migration there of contemporaries of Christ. Whether Joseph of Arimathea or others there is unlikely to be any firm conclusion, and whether therefore Joseph previously visited England is even less likely to be concluded, but the possibility still exists. And discounting possibilities by the sole method of ridiculing them or their proponents, seems somewhat unworthy of the academic qualifications professed by the learned hosts of this blog.

Oswin said...

Michael Barber: laugh on, but you display immense ignorance with your levity.